Author	Topic:   Sharing Nasriccist Experience
JamesSutherland	posted 2/11/08 6:24 PM     I just wanted to write and share my experience with ppl as I have read countless articles and stories myself. I had a brief yet intense encounter with an N or at least I think she was a classic N but am more sure than not. Ive had a previous strange experience with another girl but this time it's more definite than not. Even tho short lived. I still came out of it feeling I had lost part of myself and felt confused by her actions. The person I met and the person that she became were very different. Now I know her charm and seductiveness and interest in me was false/fake. Slowly the cracks started to show and my gut instincts alerted me every step along the way but I ignored them and these feelings were always rationalized by her and I felt I was at fault. Circumstances were different as she was accomodating me and I never wanted to rock the boat due to what I thought was her kindness but now feel it was to imprison me and get her NS. Sounds dramatic but I feel it's true. Her consideration for me slowly began to wane and at one given instant I could see despite all her words that she didn't care for me one bit, I was an object. Ive never experienced this before to this degree and was unaware until I was out of the situation and went through practically the entire time with her, to see the things that went on. I saw them but ignored them. Until you have experience of these ppl it will be hard to spot them, that is the catch 22 of this situation and that I think is what hurts us all the most, realising after the fact. As Ive read they see all the good qualities in us which attracts us to them and then they strip you of all these things very cleverly and very slowly..Gas lighting I think it is called... If something is too good to be true, it is too good to be true. There is an indicator. I truly believed that for the 1st time in my life I had met someone I could see myself being with or at least the image of that. Maybe thats why I was susceptible, because I wanted it to happen. These ppl are charming. They are buttering you up. You will begin to feel ill at ease around these ppl. Do not ignore it, do not think you are mad, do not think it is you. Set yourself clear boundaries about what you are willing to put up with. Leave and do not look back. I indulged her in every whim and the more I did, the more grandiose she started to become. I still wander how much more she would have revealed if it went on longer. Read a lot about this disorder from various different sources and stories and you will see similarities that you have suffered insidiously. I envy these people to a degree because they are so clever at what they do but only for that, they are evil and emotional vampires that cannot be cured or hurt in retaliation. They only thing that will hurt them is ignoring them or acting indifferent to every thing they say. Show no emotion... If you are married to one. I feel for you. My 2month stint was enough to confuse the hell out of me, I have no idea what years of exposure will do. I feel that everyone needs to know these ppl exist, they need to be avoided. More and more and formed each day, the only way this will be addressed is when it becomes an epidemic. Something that society breeds... There are so many things I could say that she did. Google as much information as possible. The signs are always there. We choose to ignore them. Do not ignore your instincts. You ill always feel something is wrong around these people but will attribute it to something else.. I am fascinated by this subject as much as I am amazed by it. I feel, hopefully, armed with the right tools to spot these people and this experience has brought a much needed lesson in my life. If anything, even if you have not been exposed to a person with NPD, you should research it and be aware of it. As I said. Unfortunately it is useless as only when you have had a true encounter with such a person will it amaze and shock you for you to learn and want to understand what the hell went on... Good Luck...
Lightworker	posted 2/23/08 3:28 AM     The big thing I noticed right off the start was how my N ex boyfriend would always have to be in control of little details at first, like what day of the week I was "allowed" to come over..always some excuse why it had to be certain days and not others.. If he learned Wednesdays were good for me he would acquiesce and then suddenly announce Wednesdays no longer would work. Or if we were going to have dinner and he knew I wanted chicken, well then pork it was...and so on.. Also he would say the oddest things at the oddest times. Completely out of left field. In hindsight I didn't exist and what we were discussing right then didn't matter other than it lead him to a random thought about himself. And he had the inability to say he was wrong about anything. Once he insisted cows had only one stomach. Laughing, and knowing I had him in the bag, I calmly informed him that cows were ruminents and had four stomachs. he INSISTED they only had one. He started becoming really angry when I said, uh...no..they have four, they're ruminents. Finally he cut our visit short. I left and came back another day. I asked him if he'd found out about cows yet. I could tell he had but completely ignored my statement. I said it again and he just walked past me outside, again ignoring it. Stuff like that and a thousand other things. Another thing I would notice was a weird anxiety building in my stomach. It was a visceral sensation when I would set out to his place. I loved him but I knew he was fundamentally ill in some way and the anxiety was coming from knowing this relationship had to end, but not wanting to admit it was a failure...I think.. These people are so very sick. But to them it doesn't matter. To them WE have the problem and it really does fell like that to them. In other words if we get tired of their abusive and skewed behavior it doesn't matter as long as they've got a fresh replacement mirror (supply) waiting in the wings. That's why they also cheat and juggle people all the time, intrinsically somewhere they know they're going to use up a person and they'll need a freshly groomed replacement to step in. It really doesn't matter to them. That's the essence of their sickness. People have a need to form bonds with each other. In one sense it is evident with the narcissist because they do spend so much time grooming supply.. The difference is that non-NPD people seek to form lasting bonds whereas NPD people just want the trappings and benefits of a bond without any, and I mean ANY of the reciprocation part..
ArtGoddess	posted 3/27/08 2:12 AM     The most hilarious line I ever heard from someone with NPD was, "I don't like who I am when I'm with you." Is that hilarious, or what?!?! This was said to a woman I know who had been dating this guy for about 4 years. He has not worked in 9 months because he "deserves" better pay and a position of authority. I attempted talking to this woman who has declared, "He's just along for the ride," when she decided to end their relationship. Of course, she went right back to him and the game is on, again. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh.
Paper_Tiger	posted 3/29/08 6:26 PM     Interesting. I've only heard the phrase "I don't like who I am when I'm with you" once in my life. A woman I met who was simply so fixated on finding a 'serious' relationship, that when I told her I was only interested in casual dating, decided to date me anyway - presumably because she thought she could bring me over to her way of thinking. In the short term, she pretended she was OK with casual, but over time, it was clear she wasn't. She began to drink too much on our dates and other interesting behavior. When she finally figured out that she really wasn't into casual, and couldn't admit to me that consciously or unconsiously, she was hoping I would change my position, this is how she expressed it. She wasn't npd. She wasn't anything more than someone with simple low self esteem.
ArtGoddess	posted 3/30/08 1:02 PM     I've actually witnessed some of the behaviors of the fellow that I mentioned. I had never met this man before and I was shocked at his behavior the first time that I met him with his girlfriend. She had been working a long, long day and was hosting a gallery opening. At the end of the evening, he showed up and she said, "I'm so glad you're here - now we can go get something to eat!" He responded, "I'm not taking you anywhere." She looked as if she were going to cry and asked, "Why not? I'm starving." His response was, "You don't deserve it." At which point I told him that his remark wasn't even amusing to someone who was exhausted as his girlfriend was, particularly in front of several people that he'd never met before. I've witnessed other behaviors that would point to NPD and, still, this woman hangs onto this fellow. I'm thinking that she's gotten to the point that she is actually looking forward to the drama/trauma and the game-playing. Perhaps, they're both narcissistic and just feed off of each other. In any event, its a very toxic relationship and I tend to distance myself, physically, when they are together in public.
Lightworker	posted 4/10/08 7:25 PM     I wonder Paper Tiger, what exactly you consider "non-serious" dating? Does it mean coming together for sex? How can any relationship be of a disconnected nature. I've always heard the phrase "I wasn't seeing him/her seriously" and wondered WTF the person was actually saying with that statement? I heard: "I'm only using this person temporarily until I find someTHING better." That phrase is one of the most dehumanizing statements I have ever heard. "Hi, I'm not really going to consider my time with you as meaningful. You're only a temporary fixture to be used by me for (fill in the blank). I feel certain someTHING better to be used by me is coming around the bend. Don't take it personally. Cuz if you do I'll label you as psychotic or low self-esteemed..or whatever.." And that's not even the most amazing part about it. What really stuns me is how accepted this casual but toxic phrase actually is. You hear the term "casual dating" thrown around like "grandma's cookies". Everyone hears it and must know on some level what it actually means, but just doesn't care to confront it.. And we wonder why insanity is allowed to sink so deeply into the fabric of our common humanity. Wonder no more..
ArtGoddess	posted 4/11/08 8:48 AM     LW, I thoroughly agree with your view on the "casual dating" connotation. If it's "casual," then there shouldn't be any gratification expected, correct? Well, the classic NPD sees the supply source just as you mentioned: THING. Ugh.
Diaz	posted 4/12/08 10:16 AM     Hmm ..the first time anyone asked me to be involved in the causual TOXIC dating, I walked out...this is for the emotionallly disconnected people..NORMAL human beings are not and should not engage in this kind of soul rape...its incomprehnsible that people think they can engage in this kind of communication without losing a part of themselves..unless you are emotionally disordered to begin with ..if you put limits on the viability of relationships before they even start off, you do yourself and whoever is involved a disservice. Also its VERY important for any potential date to know that she or he is a temporary fix..but all this causal dating always leave the unsuspecting damaged or even those who had full disclosure are still burnt..its our human nature..is all It must be a great way for a narcissist and makes good training grounds for future narcissist... I beleive when they discover most partners will walk away when causal dating is mentioned, most peple start to simply date without letting the partner in on the fact that its causual dating till they are hooked...truly narcissistic behvior
wendy	posted 5/2/08 11:18 PM       Its nice that theres lots of info on this disorder. I was none the wiser to these kind of people. I have just come away and am essentiallly trying to escape an N. He did what seems to be the trick of seducing me and my friends. I wasnt sure I wanted to enter into any kind of relationship with him at first but, but since he started seducing my friends and telling them that he loved me etc etc. He managed to twist them ino twisting my arm so to speak into embarking into a relationship with him. This N is particularly nasty at first he try befriend my friends what I mean by that is going to events that I would normally go to but have been unable since I have a kid and taking MY friends back to his flat to fill their heads with how im a closed off person and apparently unemotional. I fell ino a trap whereby I believd his story that his ex-wife was abusive towards him. I listened to monhs of vitriol about this female until I told him enough was enough. I stupidly let this guy move in wih me and my son. It led to a different persona from him he became increasingly demanding for sex etc, even though I went through a long period of illness. The demands manifested themselves into my apparent rejection of him, which inturn led to bouts of verbal and emotional abuse. I also discovered that he was slandering me to other people and some friends of mine. He was buying things for me that I didnt ask for or need which also led to serious verbal and emotional abuse. I had observed him on many of occasion flirting in an abnormal way with other females The man has been physically abusive I beleived his promises of geting help etc. It got so bad that I could no longer go out with him or take him anywhere with me as he often caused trouble between me and my friends or deliberatly try and get me upset so that he could point he finger and make himself look superior. It took me a while to understand that one. I did hit him I admit cos in early days I had no idea what I was dealing with. I had had him being abusive verbally towards my ten year old son and couldnt believe he expected me to accept that. NO CHANCE OBVIOUSLY. I had the guy abduct me and drive me outta town where he had me listen to verbal abuse about me, my friends, my family , my work etc for over 4 hours and then of course comes the dip in personaliy where the reality sets in that 1 i got him recorded of his abuse and 2 I could get him charged. Ive had the guy bring a known theif in my house so that he could steal off me-he guy did he stole my laptop and mobile and friends purse. I admit this was the turning point for me cos I went for the N in a big way. I was going to kill him for doing all this. Im trying to study and have a kid to bring up. I managed to get the N out my home and escorted it to get a flat elsewhere. Problem is this N dont come from this area. Ive lived here for over 25 years and he insists on being friends with my friends for NS. In other words its all he wanted in first place, my friends, my life, as he has no life. Ive been recording his abuse and telling my friends now whats been happening and also my family. Its odd when your human and trying o get this thing to recognise that it is unnacceptable to be violent and abusive and troublemaking in life. The N still thinks I need him. Im sorry for saying it, its just that we are dealing with a human being here is devoid of soul somehow. I have never come across anything like it. I know we have a lot of social problems wihin society and I dont profess to be problem free myself. But I dont understand this kind of being. I know eventually even hough ive warned this guy in a big way that im going to have to do something about it. Im storing up the abusive texts and e-mails and have his abuse recorded on a dictaphone. Problem he's got is im too well liked and respected in this town and he cant puncture that. in other words not a lot of people are buying his stories. They seem to switch from the abuser to victim and one sweep. Its weird. Hes crazy now cos I wont have him back and have made i clear if not public that hes essentially rotten. He'll never rest until he can worm his way back in and then before you know it he's only preparing for the next nasty episode he can inflict on you. In other words I know that he wants to loll me ino a false sense of security so that he can set up the next scene in public so that he can say "see, look,look what ive got to put up with". He would do anything for attention I went through a stage of feeling sorry for him but I tell you dont be fooled by this, its another way of getting attention. It is afterall all they desire. He truly thinks he's special, has had special education and is generally jus special. He dont have any family or any real friends in the way you or I do. My advice to you all is to reconnect wih your mates. Log down any abuse, record it tell your friends and keep it up ill you get rid of it. My N is still stalking me essentially. He's been warned and Im quite prepared to ensure that somewhere down the line he's going to end up in court with a possible sentence. All my friends are getting warned as far as im concerned. these Ns are just bullies and haven been able to grow up yet. I read somewhere that they are like 6year olds with a shotgun! I think thats a pretty accurate description and all the more reason to be opening up to others and seeking support from friends and family and start to isolate these people. Im waiting on my Ns response to the isolation im beginning to implement on him through informing people of the abuse by him. Youve got to or they just get away with causing more hurt and damage on her people. sounds bad maybe but i think a tase of their own medicine is essential.
ArtGoddess	posted 5/11/08 12:58 AM     You've had a harrowing experience, to be sure. What you need to focus on, right now, is LIVING for yourself and your son. What the N chooses to say to your friends and/or family members cannot be monitored. When we attempt to explain what we have endured (particularly at the hands of an abusive NPD), we come out sounding like raving lunatics - nobody can be that manipulative or sadistic, as far as they're concerned, because such cruelty doesn't make sense. I would strongly suggest and URGE that you enter into counseling or therapy with someone who specializes in domestic violence/abuse recovery, and see that your son is also engaged in some meaningful counseling and healthy activities. Your son will have witnessed some very damaging behaviors and he doesn't have the experience or vocabulary to process what he's witnessed and endured. You mentioned that you were "waiting for the N" to begin realizing the isolation that you've imposed? PLEASE - walk away and stop hoping for closure because there will not be what can be reasonably defined as "closure" when leaving an NPD. You will have to make your own closure without interaction with this man. This is why surviving a relationship with an NPD is so difficult, be they spouses, siblings, parents, or whatever else - there is no "winner" and the non-NPD never has the "last word." That's why we have to cut off all communications and walk away. Best of luck to you and your son, and please engage in some good, strong counseling with a specialist.
listentoyourgut	posted 6/5/08 5:45 PM     Wow! I can so relate to many of the stories here. I was surprised (afterwards) to find myself in a relationship with an N. I am intelligent, independent, sane, and thought I knew myself. Well, N was charming at first, but I did notice certain things as our relationship developed, such as - when chatting, he would not appear to be listening, but would repeatedly say "yes, yes" as I was talking and then try to turn it to himself - had no friends and had no desire to meet mine - kept saying he had very high standards - hardly ever called - said he would then didn't - said he had bought jewellery - which never materialised I started to get serious alarm bells when he asked me to sell up and move in with him - after only a few months - and shortly after he had ended the relationship for no apparent reason. I started to suspect NPD and looked at Sam Vakin(sp) site - very revealing. It all came to a head when he raged at me because I dared to consider going on vacation with my extended family to an out of the way place he'd been to and gushed about. He raged at me that I had destroyed his efforts to be unique and to be considered different. That was the moment of realization for me that this person has no concept of being in a loving and caring relationship. All I can say is, listen to your gut feeling with these people. They are conning you and, sadly for them, conning themselves into thinking a true human connection can be achieved. It can't. Find somebody special - I did. I think another poseter said it - it's actually a fascinating disorder, and I thank g*d I don't have to live with it. Can you imagine, only feeling real in the presence of someone you consider inferior? What joy! ANyway, I don't consider myself a survivor, because the relationship was short, it ended because I wanted it to, and it served the purpose of showing me the true beauty and wonder in the real human beings around me. Don't let it mar you - appreciate the true good from another human being, and don't give these "machines" the time of day.
Run Like the Dickens!	posted 6/13/08 1:34 PM     I too can relate to all of these posts. I truly believe my brother is an N. In all of the research they say that if you are an N there is a high possibility that one of your parents is one too. Both my brother and father fit 7 out of the 9 traits of an N. A few years ago I made the decision to have NO CONTACT with my brother. However, they are really good at sweet talking and I let him back into my life. I wish I had never done so. I am now back to the NO CONTACT. I truly believe that is the only way to handle Ns. The sad thing is that he is my only sibling. My mom is devastated, but I have to do what is right for me. I have the right to live a peaceful life. We all do. NO CONTACT!
Judy Otero	posted 6/15/08 2:13 PM       I just found this sight. I have been with this N for 27 years and indured his abuse by my own chose. I so wanted to be mature and work through our problems and become the best version of ourselves. I was in denial for the last ten years. I was better than nothing. Now he has someone knew and didn't even have the guts to say we were through. He started avoiding me and when I tried to talk to him he treated me like I was a bother. I knew he was involved with someone. Funny but he is monogamous. I asked him if there was any hope for us and he said "I can't say right now". How sick. N have no compassion for anyone. I was of no use to him because he had drained me finanacially and emotionally. I just read that the only revenge is to go on and have a good life. To me that is getting my priorties straight. I have been alone for so many years but in those years I have learned to be comfortable with myself. I will survive. He is evil. God have mercy on his soul.
wasjustbrougtintotheligt	posted 7/22/08 7:26 AM     It's nice to realize I'm not alone. I can relate to much of what's been shared. I have been married to one for 20 years. I saw signs but ignored them. Better late than never to find out though. I am at a crossroads now about splitting up and divorcing him. i want to give it every chance I can to work this out. In marriage counselling recently started (about 5 sessions so far) w/him the therapist pointed out what is so obvious, he's a narcissist. I have 2 kids, a 13 yrs old who is being sucked in by him and a 7 yr old. the 13 yr old will probably want to move in w/him.I have 2 questions. #1 What do I try to do to protect my 13 year old from him (he sees only me as being at fault)I fear he may get custody (he doesn't work and retired grandma (his mom) could care for him along w/himself).The 7 yr old is close to me and my husband has basically said he would no longer consider him his son (even though we legally adopted this child about 5 yrs ago). #2 Can you start to pick up nacissistic traits yourself (ie does it rub off after awhile- he tells me I always think I'm right and can't apologize...-often I do think I'm right and I do have a hard time apologizing?). I'm more isolated than I used to be (I've been too embarrassed by his behaviors most times to invite any friends over etc, etc.).I appreciate whatever advice you can offer. I have no family near where I live. My husband just has his mom.
lynn	posted 7/25/08 12:48 AM     I was involved with what I am now convinced a person who suffers from NPD. I could never put my finger on the fact that he seemed to have no reguard or compassion for those who loved him, only those whom he barely knew. It is very hard to get away from an individual like this as again they need to feel as if they have "won" and can not stand for it to appear that another does not want anything to do with them anymore so they can be very charming when trying to savor the relationship. One thing I have found in almost the 3 years I have continued to let this man torture me and my son is that it IS NOT LOVE. They are not capable of love. Beware, things can become very serious in a situation like this. I allowed this man to drive me to a point that I believed I was crazy, to a point I had a gun in my hand with every intention of killing myself, and luckily aimed it at the ground when I remembered my little boy who needed me. I suffered legal repercussions from this incident as well as intensive therepy that imediately found there was a problem directly related to him that had caused the intense despair. I ended up still not recognizing "it wasnt me" and months later had to take 13 weeks of disability off work as I had a nervous breakdown. During this time a wise doctor told me that you will never be ready to go back to work as long as you are with this man. I broke up with him the next day and recovered from my "craziness and koo koo" he called me on a daily basis almost imediately. I always see the good in people, I have never met a person like this, and admit I have had some communication with him since Feb, until I had the strength to finally call the police on him last week when he emotionally abused me so bad on my birhtday in front of my son, that enough was enough. I hope I can continue to be strong. I finally called his ex-wife for some help, she advised me to change my number and if need be put a restraining order against him and then he will finally from the humiliation leave me alone. Just wanted to share some long-term effects of staying with an individual like this. It is devistating for you as well as your children.
Wrangler	posted 8/22/08 5:38 PM     I am so glad I found this forum and particularly the subject path. I am not qualified to diagnose my girlfriend of two years with NPD, but so many of the behaviors I am reading here match what I have experienced exactly. I love her dearly, but fear the relationship must end in order to save myself. Those of you who have walked in my shoes know the battle between the emotional side of me that wants to work it out no matter what it takes, and the logical side of me that knows I must end it for my own well-being. I will post my story when time allows. It is a long, long tale, but I will certainly abbreviate. I look forward to hearing your advice and insight. Thank you all for being a part of this. It is very comforting.
Receivingend	posted 8/27/08 7:50 PM     I have been on the end of a N aswell, I still hear about his rants pointing the finger at all the horrible wrongs I am accused of and I still laugh at it all. The relationship ended as soon as my former buddy realized he had gotten everything he needed and had no more use for me as a friend, alas he will never know true friendship, only the false friendship that follows successand those are the ones he keeps around for support to tell about my evil side, I would have gone nuts if I had not looked into this further and found some resolve.
Troubled	posted 10/22/08 10:37 PM     I know this thread hasn't been posted to in a while, but wanted a way to find tell my experience. Up until a few days ago I thought I had serious personal problems myself. My partner and I have been attending couples counselling for 1 month now and whilst meeting with the counseller alone, he informed me that my partner was probably a narssist. I researched and cant believe the stories Im hearing. All of a sudden I do not feel alone. He had made me lose all my self worth and belive that I was seriously screwed up. Currently I am living with him with our finances and lives so intertwined. He also has 3 children whom I really love and he has 50/50 custody of them. After reading everything everyone has to say I know I need to leave him as I don't believe he will change, he would never admit to having this as a problem. Infact, he constantly blames me for everything and is not responsible for any problems in our relationship. Im going through a really bad time at the moment, there is no love or affection being received. He says he wants to work on the relationship but he is doing the complete opposite, Im so confused. He is hurting and hurting me more everyday. How do you leave such a person? Every time I have attempted to leave him, he takes me for all I have, I end up with no car and no possessions. I have had tresspassing orders on him but I still take him back. Has anyone got good advise on how you left???
Swedman	posted 2/27/09 10:22 AM     Hi James! I just read your story here and I can totaly relate. In my case it was 3 months back in 2005 with a female from the states ( I am from Sweden btw). I guess it took me about 2 years to unwind my head after that experience :-/. Yes NPD is realy a strange/bizare disorder. I joined the MSN-group for NPD abused peaople back in 2005 (its now on runboard.com) Very supporting and interesting to meet people with the same experince.There is lot that could be said/discussed but I have left that phase a long time ago now (Happily married with a wonderful little daugther!!). Some advice to people in any kind of relation to a N: Stay the F away from them! No, they cant be helped or changed. Only one thing is certain and that is that YOU will get hurt and the recovery path is long. Take care Swedman
One.day.at.a.time	posted 10/12/09 2:58 PM     It's good to know that I am not alone in this. I have been married to a NPD for one year only but it has been like a 100 years to me. The damage this relationship did to me is more than anything else could cause in 10 years. The continuous blame from him is still ringing in my ears, still feel that I am a failure. Although I am very independant and successful in my career and have always been a strong person, yet with him I forgot whom I really was. I came to realise that I am a different person only after I left him. His therapist can't see his reality and wants me to give it another chance, but he doesn't know how many chances I have given this relationship but they all failed. Every time I decide to leave him, he comes crying and weeping and begging me to come back and promising to change and after I go back to him, we live in a 2 days honeymoon, folowed by the same living hell much more intensified. It seems that he becomes sooo bitter that he had to beg me to come back to him that he wants his revenge from me. The abuse is non-stop, I walk on egg-shells all the time. I remember I was talking with my therapist (whom my NPD insisted that I shouldn't talk with any more but I did anyway from behind his back) and I told him that I feel like someone who is raising a pet lion at home, if I don't keep it well fed and happy, it will eat me up alive any minute. The problem was that even if I fed it and kept it happy, there is still a chance that it would eat me up alive!!!!! I left in this horror every minute of the day all through the 365 days that I lived with him and now after I left him, I thank God every day that I came out of this relationship in one piece and with my sanity still intact. I thank him for my very precious freedom, I am once again free to decide what to wear and what to eat and where to go and whom to talk with and where to work. I am free to sleep if I am tired, or just hang around not doing anything when I just don't feel like doing anything. I am free to feel good about myself again. I am free to live and learn and laugh and be who I really am without being afraid of being harshly criticized. I guess that freedom is a gift that we don't cme to appreciate until we lose it.
AlmostFinished	posted 4/11/10 9:53 AM     The funniest thing my x N said was you make me want to be mean to you. ????
Sam	posted 12/15/11 5:49 PM       I am definitely living with an "N". When I met him I had been married 18 years with 3 children. Fairly happy. "N" was so lovely. The way he spoke, treated me and just made me fall for him. He seemed perfect in every way. Now 4 years on, EVERY aspect of my life is controlled. My children now hate their father because of his lies. He even has the judge at the family court convinced my ex is causing trouble so as to take away his last bit of contact with our daughter. My ex was and would be if given the chance, a perfect father but has got no chance now. HE HAS HAD HIS FATHERING RIGHTS TOOK AWAY FROM HIM AND THERES NOTHING I CAN DO TO STOP MY PARTNER! I am not allowed to talk to my ex with out dire consiquences. I cannot do anything to stop this for the saftey of my family but am asking this!!! How can my ex prove that he is a "N" without involving myself and the children? PLEASE HELP!!!!!

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