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| Author | Topic: How do we know Yeshua is Messiah |
| Rachell |
posted 12/16/07 4:42 AM
Honest question, because I am trying to learn- How do you know Yeshua is Messiah? The Tanakh never mentions him, none of the Tanakh prophets tell of Yeshua. Further, Yeshua desecrated the Temple by going into the Holy of Holies eventhough he was not a Levite High Priest. The first mention of Yeshua being Messiah or Son of G-d is in the New Testament which was in Catholic hands & most likely altered by them (like everything else they touch). So how do we know? If Messiah had been here, how would the whole world not know? This is an honest question- I am not trying to be controversial or start an argument. Just seeking truth. I have Hebrew heritage, but I do not acknowledge Talmud because it is authored by mortal men & not the Almighty. Any insight you have is greatly appreciated. I have searched on my own for years & find no evidence that Yeshua is Messiah except for the New Testament, which I don't acknowledge. Just trying to learn... please help. |
| Jeff |
posted 12/17/07 4:12 AM
Jesus told us about how simple life is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind". And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" There is no falsehood in that, that scripture explains the entire bible (Old and New Testement) right there. God spoke right to Cain and asked him why he was wroth? But instead of answering God and telling him why he was angry he went out and killed his brother for absolutly nothing. If Cain had loved Abel as himself, would he haved killed Abel? "I am the way, the truth and the life, nonone comes to the father except by me" "before Abraham was I AM" That is the same "I Am" who spoke to Moses in the burning bush. God speaks simple. I AM GOD, I AM REAL ISRAEL basically mean "GOD Is REAL" For the people in this world questioning if there is a GOD, ISRAEL means "yes there is a GOD". If you love the lord you will respect and try to follow his rules "I Am" made. If you love your neibor you will not try to cheat, hurt, disrespect or them. If you see your neibor starving, would you feed them if you had the income to buy them food? This is what Jesus would ask of us to do. As far as the Catholic Church goes its the Whore of Babylon (false Religous system) that sits atop the beast. And the beast hates the whore because it has power over it and the beast doesn't like being ruled. Now I don't know everything about Emperor Constantine but he put and end to the Christians being massacred. He was the one who ordered the bible to be put together and I beleive the lord used him to get it done acreatly as humanly possible. He didn't do everything God told him to do though. that is why its hard to see him as a Christian at times. Just like some of the Kings of Israel who only did part of what God wanted. Except for Hezekiah, as far as I know he did everything God told him to, so the Lord let him live longer. Now when he died the next Emperor started the slughter of Christians again. Thats Why I beleive Constantine was a Christian. Yeshua never went into the "Holy of Holies". Where have you heard that from? Thats nowhere in scripture. The torah repeadely speaks of Yeshua in prophecies. I would be able to give you the scriptures but I have a bad back and don't have the energy to look for some of them. Now why did God tell Abraham to sacrafice his son Issac? Because if God was going to give his only begotten Son, he was going to have it go through a bloodline of a man who was willing to sacrafice his only son. Why did Yeshua come from Judah's bloodline after Abraham then? Because Judah told Joseph he would take Benjamins place in prison. The same way Jesus took are place when he died so man could be reconciled with God. You are right about the Talmud I have heard of it and it was man made. "If Messiah had been here, how would the whole world not know?" Because the whole world did not care. Gods plan was to have Israel preach the Gosbel to the world but the majority of Hebrews wanted a Warrior Messiah to come save them from the Romans, not a gentle lamb telling them, to love one another. Why is Abraham talked about so much in your Torah? Because he was a rightous man, maybe one of the only righteos men on the earth at the time. The vast majority of churches are not preaching Christianty. There preaching ,love money, take care of yourself and you'll be in there good graces as long as you give them the Money and never ask a thing of them. And how do I know that Yeshua is Messiah? When I was two years old, my mother asked my brother If he wanted to except Jesus into his heart. I thought she was speaking to me at the time. I said yes and I have have Jesus with me ever since. Thats why when they did alter calls throughout my youth. I didn't know if I had excepted Christ ever, because I was so young at the time I did, it was very hard to remember! I knew when I was 2 my mother loved me, and when she asked my brother Christopher if he wanted Christ, I saw what she had inside of her and I wanted the same in me. That love she had for me came from Yeshua. Its what makes her the woman she is and me the man I am as well. I see men in this world that hate God. These men also hate me and I notice the men that Hate Christ, hate me as well. Even if I have never done a thing to them, they still hate me because I love Jesus. Jesus taught us God was not only are creater but are FATHER. God sees the people who love him as his Children. I am also Hebrew, I found out in a dream in 2001. Then later in 2004 I found out my great great grandfather was Hebrew. I know that God Is real as well from the Dreams I have had. How they have come true. Only God could give a man the experiences I have had in my life. Look at this point if Moses were alive on this earth today. He would be called a physophrenic nutcase and DRS would want him locked up and tortured till he rejected God or until he was dead. Athiests are seen as heroes to the worlds eyes, but Christians are blamed for everything just as the world likes to blame the Hebrews. Tell me this, what did Yeshua do that was against the Lord? Did he tell people to go around killing people like the Muslims or drink Rat Urine and whorship rats like the Hindus? Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks Jeff |
| Patrick |
posted 6/2/08 10:30 PM
Shalom Rachell Are you still around in this forum? An answer to you question may be found in the teachings of Rico Cortez, a Jewish Believer in Yeshua. I can write down what I remember but easier would be if you could listen to his teaching on this subject. I guess you will be able to find it? If not, I can help you. Mainly it is about the fact that in DEU 18:15 it is stated that ADONAI "will send a prophet like unto Moshe". So all what happened in the life of Moshe MUST happen in the life of Yeshua. If not, we are waisting our time. Well, there are so many similarities that it CANNOT be a coincidence. YESHUA is the promised Moshiah of Israël and it is so beautifull to be able to realise that every human being can be grafted in into the Family, if he wants to. It's your FREE choice. May the Lord bless you and keep you, May the Lord make his Face shine upon you and be gracious to you, May the Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you Peace. |
| Richard |
posted 1/3/09 4:55 AM
I take several things as clues: Destruction of the Temple by Romans and the permanence of it for two millennium now. Why does G-d turn deaf ear to the cries? Why so silent as if to say: Could such cries change His mind? When Israelites became indifferent and unfaithful after the exodus G-d did not take so long to announce the destruction of old covenant and creation of new alliance through Messiah. It seems that destruction of old covenant has already taken place,, the silence w.r.t. reconstruction of third Temple for so long,,, amidst constant cries... it is not like Him, unless of course, Messiah had already come. If Yeshua was not Messiah, then who was? Have we missed him completely? Now that state of Israel is in its geographical location, are we to hear about a pregnant Virgin again? What about the ceremonially uncleanliness matter? Will Messiah come as a ceremonially unclean Jew? |
| Joey Thompson |
posted 1/29/09 0:41 AM
The answer to the question is found in he 70 weeks prophecy in Daniel 9:27. Messiah the Prince had to come on to the scene in the first century AD, 483 years after the command went forth to rebuild Jerusalem. That would have been around 26 or 27 AD. Does anyone know of any one else besides Yeshua who might have lived at that time that could have been The Lamb of YHWH? I didn't think so..... Joey |
| Liz |
posted 11/19/10 8:39 PM
Read this SITE, exact year of the phophecy of DANIEL 9:24-26, GO TO PAGE 70, AMAZING! http://www.fishhouseministries.com/pdf/2011%20T.O,.pdf Prophecies fullfilled |
| Anthony Johnson |
posted 5/1/11 5:22 AM
One of the best indications that Maran Yeshua as (or is) the true prophesied Messiah [from Aramaic, translated in English: "The Lord Jesus"--as He was referred to by the Messianic Church and His Apostles in the First Century A.D.]: (1) Analyze in Greek, Aramaic and the Hebrew languages of First century, the very first verse of book of Revelation and then, read and study all of the myriad of actions recorded under His Name, Yeshua! It is astonishing! (2) Go visit any Mesianic Congregation in your region, and ask to speak for an hour with its Rabbi or Pastor. He will prove to you, from the Hebrew Scriptures (Torah), and from the New Testament that Yeshua is the Messiah! (3) Yeshua made numerous claims in the Gospels that He is the "Annointed One" ("The Christ" in English) of YEHOVAH --whom He referred to as "Father"). So Why Christ's own personal testimony is not sufficient to us, if it was plenty sufficient to Pilate back then? And, I think, that Pilate was a lawyer in his own right before the Cesar himself! |
| Jacob |
posted 9/3/11 2:20 AM
Anyone who mistakenly believes that Yahshua the Messiah of the Scriptures...or of the New Testament...is "God come in the flesh" has been deceived by false "ministers" preaching a damnable doctrine in which there is no salvation, so be very carefull to test the spirit of such teaching. Regarding Yahshua and Abraham, the correct translation of John 8:58 is "Yahshua said to them, Truly, truly I say to you: Before Abraham is risin, I will be." We are warned that everyone who teaches against this TRUTH wars against Yahweh's annointed ome and his gospel: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit (word, teaching), but TEST THE SPIRITS to see whether they are OF YAHWEH; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. BY THIS you will know the Spirit (word, teaching) of Yahweh: Every spirit that confesses that Yahshua Messiah STARTED in the flesh is of Yahweh. And every spirit that DOES NOT confess that Yahshua Messiah started in the flesh IS NO OF YAHWEH. So THIS (word, teaching) is the Anti ("against") Messiah (spirit/word and teaching) which you have heard was coming (against the truth of Scripture), AND IS ALREADY IN THE WORLD." 1 John 4:1-3 . |
| DAVID KING |
posted 10/28/11 9:05 PM
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| David |
posted 2/12/12 7:00 AM
Beware of the false prophets who twist the meaning of the writings in order to prove what they want. John 8:58 says "ειπεν αυτοις ο ιησους αμην αμην λεγω υμιν πριν αβρααμ γενεσθαι εγω ειμι" and means "Jesus said to them, amen, amen, I say to you, I am before Abraham came to be.". 1 John 4:2 says "εν τουτω γινωσκεται το πνευμα του θεου παν πνευμα ο ομολογει ιησουν χριστον εν σαρκι εληλυθοτα εκ του θεου εστιν" and means "in this the spirit of God is known: every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ who has come in flesh is out of God." Verify for yourself that no other meaning is correct. |
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